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New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 09:02 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
Team and Match racing was a feature restricted for SUBSCRIPTORS (paying members).
We required all sailors on a match to be paying members.

(The reason being that we considered team and match racers to be not the casual user but someone using really SailX 'intensively', getting a nice value from it and, so, where 30€/year seemed a fair contribution)

But we have seen that both team and match usage has dropped, one of the reasons stated being that there is no longer a 'critical' mass to find enough sailors in the same field concurrently.

We've decided to change the restrictions in order to increase the chances for subscriptors to match and team.

IF THERE ARE SUBSCRIPTORS WITH A BOAT IN THE FIELD other boats (even Guests) can get a boat.

At least 3 subscriptors have to be with a boat in a team field, and a single subscriptor is required in a Match-Race field.

Each time the race is reset ALL non-subscriptors will be retired to allow new subscriptors to get in.

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#105003
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 11:08 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
Excellent idea. Let's give it a try and see how it works out.
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#105008
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 12:31 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
I thought this might happen . I have always questioned weither it was all about teams so I did an experiment . It took some real persuasion to get some of these guys to X1




team racing


Oh and the new system works realy well

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#105009
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 12:32 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
I love it!
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#105044
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 18:35 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
I love the fact that it will shut a_newb up

(oh yea, and now I can team race too)
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#105082
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/01 21:52 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
So is it one guest/non subscriber per subscriber with a boat, or do you just need one subscriber to field a 2v2 or 3v3 team race? I would prefer the latter.

this is better than nothing. I have an alternative suggestion. shoot it down if you like.

Anyone use pandora.com? this is where i got the idea from. make teams and match racing free, but put a monthly cap on it, say 30 free team races a month? thats one free race a day! after that you have to pay or wait a month to team race again.

Pandora does something similar but its 40 hours of free music a month then you have to pay a dollar for the rest of the month for unlimited music.
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#105111
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/02 00:58 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
Maybe on Frodo's behalf the subscriber could decide who they want to sail as their guest.

Because Frodo wrote in a different thread:
I don't agree with this at all. I don't think it is fair to have non-paying members mooch off my account, or any other account that a user has paid for. If that is what comes in, then the subscribed user should have total control over what registered users are in the field.

So, personally, I don't like that idea at all.


The only alternative I can suggest is that if you like team racing, go pay up. Then you and all your mates will realise that there was no team racing (with the people you want) because you and your mates didn't pay up..


then again the change has been made ...

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Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/02 11:28 (1 Year, 8 Months ago)  
SINOGIN wrote:
Pandora does something similar but its 40 hours of free music a month then you have to pay a dollar for the rest of the month for unlimited music.

I like the "dollar" part of this idea
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#106877
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/16 22:17 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
would it be possible to add in if a subscriptor gets a boat in a teams field, a guest is retired? if no guest, a guested, non subcriptor ritered, if none in the field, then a non subscriptor is booted?
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#107288
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/20 02:56 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
I would say yes but before the 60 seconds
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#107319
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/20 06:02 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
Yes, we can apply the same procedure we are using for multifleet.
When a race is reset and before t=-60 a subscriptor trying to get a boat will cause a non-subscriptor to retire.

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#107335
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/20 11:39 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
That make things easyeir when subscriptor are trying to get in thank you aestela.
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Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/21 15:04 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
Thanks A!
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#107722
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/23 06:37 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
All X (team) and M (match) fields have been reconfigured with RANKING PRIORITY=On.
That means that during the the early prestart and, if the field is full, system will be reassigning boats using the ranking criteria.

Subscriptors have a ranking but free-riders have also a (hidden) ranking that is always lower than any subscriptor.

These changes have been done ONLY in the configuration of the fields (no code change) and have been never tested before. Please report any bug or unintended 'features' that might appear in this thread.

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#108106
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/26 14:39 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
so if i(88th place) were racing against someone in match who was, say, 50th place, some one in20th place could join in prestart and i would be booted
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#108118
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/26 16:25 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
Yes
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#108121
Re:New restriction schema for TEAMS and MATCH 2010/06/26 17:13 (1 Year, 7 Months ago)  
Beigel wrote:
.so if i(88th place) were racing against someone in match who was, say, 50th place, some one in20th place could join in prestart and i would be booted

my problem with this is that is a fleet racing ranking and not match or teams ranking.

I think it's quasi good until players are ranked properly for the given style of racing.
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