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#220096
Rule 2 issues 2012/07/08 19:35 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
HI all,

I was racing in a daily today and the amount of people breaking rule 2 and not sailing by the rules is mad. What can we do to stop this?

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#220098
Re: Rule 2 issues 2012/07/08 19:36 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
Protest them and submit those protests.

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#220100
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/08 19:47 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
I will, i just wanted to mention that the number of trolls and rules brackers seem to be increasing.
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#220168
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/09 14:30 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
Welcome to our world...
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#220193
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/09 18:00 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
sigh....
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#220228
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/09 20:25 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
Yet again it is the same group of people (i wont mention who) who keep messing everyone up, and protest pointlessly.
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#220235
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/09 20:36 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
Be sure you have irrefutable proof of a clear violation of the principles of good sportsmanship and fair play, then please protest them and submit those protests, otherwise we don't know who they are and cannot deal with them.

If you want to help improve sailx submit rule 2 protests against these boats. Remember you can file without hailing for rule 2.

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#220238
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/09 20:43 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
HI Okole,
Here is one of them
www.sailx.com/forum/19-protests/220230-s...08-2-sailhk-vs159tur

And here is one more of them (these have not been protests by me but I have witnessed several things like that done by the same people

www.sailx.com/forum/19-protests/220189-s...l09-2-get-well-clear
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#220281
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/10 07:19 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
I've filed Kilos of protests versus them. Then they didn't show in protest room and they take only a red flag or the protest stays there for ages untill somebody closes it without resrictions for the protestee.
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#220282
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/10 07:22 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
We will take a special look at these protests involving the Turkish sailors, to be sure they are ruled correctly.

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#220294
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/10 09:02 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
thanks so much Okole!
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#220296
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/10 09:09 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
www.sailx.com/index.php?option=com_kunen...=220112&catid=19
Here is one that i did get to file on one of them and they have not replyed.

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Turkey748 gets a Permanent Red flag from this protest.
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#220495
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/11 18:21 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
www.sailx.com/index.php?option=com_kunen...=220112&catid=19
can someone please end this properly, they always do this and do not reply so get red flags but not anything else.
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#220496
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/11 18:46 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
iy happens to me too... so annoying
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#220504
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/11 19:28 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
Keep protesting if you see genuine breaches of the rules. These guys will slowly learn how to sail by the rules.

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#220512
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/11 20:02 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
ok Okole, will do.
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#220556
Re:Rule 2 issues 2012/07/12 07:02 (10 Months, 2 Weeks ago)  
I'd say a thing... if you haven't done something yet with saarkapon... please, do it. When He comes online he only does disasters.
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